Six Flags - Tulsa?

QUOTE (Spartan65 @ September 18, 2006 03:25 pm)

Was that Laundry's, or Landry's, the upscale Houston-based seafood chain?

Yeah, Landry's the upscale Houston resturant company. They are perfect for the Amusement Park Business!

Well I think something like the Kemah Boardwalk in Houston (which they operate) would do fine in Tulsa, on the river. In fact it could be a major aspect of The Channels.

QUOTE (bombermwc @ September 17, 2006 04:16 pm)

They apparently don't realize that you can't sell off properties when your business is in theme parks. If you sell all your parks, how are you goint to make money...derrrr.

In their minds the land is more valuable than the park, which it was in the case of Astroworld. The redevelopment of that land will bring them more than they could ever have made running it as an amusement park. The same thing for Elitch Gardens in Denver or any of the other parks inside major metro areas. This is especially true for the older parks that were built in the middle of nowhere and have now been eaten up by development like the one in Arlington.

Snyder is not in the amusement park business, he is just in business to make money and doesn't care who it impacts as long as it is only positive for him. It wouldn't supreise me to see Six Flags get fully divested whether it be through selling off parks to other parties or closing them and redevelopment of the site. Isn't that the specialty of corporate raiders?

Landry's does have the Aquarium and Downtown Aquarium concept attraction/restaurant that they have been developing.

QUOTE (bluedogok @ September 18, 2006 08:59 pm)

QUOTE (bombermwc @ September 17, 2006 04:16 pm)

They apparently don't realize that you can't sell off properties when your business is in theme parks. If you sell all your parks, how are you goint to make money...derrrr.

In their minds the land is more valuable than the park, which it was in the case of Astroworld. The redevelopment of that land will bring them more than they could ever have made running it as an amusement park. The same thing for Elitch Gardens in Denver or any of the other parks inside major metro areas. This is especially true for the older parks that were built in the middle of nowhere and have now been eaten up by development like the one in Arlington.

Snyder is not in the amusement park business, he is just in business to make money and doesn't care who it impacts as long as it is only positive for him. It wouldn't supreise me to see Six Flags get fully divested whether it be through selling off parks to other parties or closing them and redevelopment of the site. Isn't that the specialty of corporate raiders?

Landry's does have the Aquarium and Downtown Aquarium concept attraction/restaurant that they have been developing.

Actually, Six Flags Elitch gardens in Denver is in a flood plain. It would have to have millions of dollars of flood work and control done to make the land viable for construction. Plus, it would have to have further contamination work done. It would be so expensive, that Six Flags Elitch Gardens will remain Denver's Amusment park, as it has been fo rnearly the last 115 years now.

QUOTE (bluedogok @ September 18, 2006 08:59 pm)

Landry's does have the Aquarium and Downtown Aquarium concept attraction/restaurant that they have been developing.

Yes and I think Landry's is loking at adding attractions to this. Just an idea, but they may consider buying up a six Flags park on the block. Open the gates as a pedestrian plaza with no entrance fee. Add retail and residentiasl with-in the park as well as clubs and bars and resturants and and aquarium. Rides would be pay-per-ride.

I was just at Six flags during the weeken in Dallas... It was packed and the rides were sweet... They have this new fast pass you can get with your group and you dont have to wait in line...

Many of you know I lived in Houston for a while. I had a townhome off McPherson (medical district) and for a while I also had a neat little place between Galveston Island and the Kemah Boardwalk.

Houston Kemah Boardwalk is a great, family-oriented attraction owned by Landry's... it's a pedestrian mall in Kemah, TX, but it has more of a boardwalk feel. The shops are all constructed out of coarse wood that looks really aged and weathered, and there's some really upscale restaurants, such as the Aquarium.

There was a channel (a real one that did not have islands in it) between the boardwalk and the Mainland that was lined with expensive yachts and bike trails.

I think something like this would do well on the river.

QUOTE (Warren @ September 19, 2006 02:17 am)

Actually, Six Flags Elitch gardens in Denver is in a flood plain. It would have to have millions of dollars of flood work and control done to make the land viable for construction. Plus, it would have to have further contamination work done. It would be so expensive, that Six Flags Elitch Gardens will remain Denver's Amusment park, as it has been fo rnearly the last 115 years now.

Well, Elitch was moved not that many years ago to the downtown location from I think Lakewood. There has been some talk of redevelopment because the park is landlocked, which is a death knell for most amusement parks in this age of bigger is better expansion. It has performed well, but below expectations....and we know expectations and not reality is all that matters anymore

I could see a redevelopment for that area if the Downtown/LoDo area stays hot, somebody will take a chance on it no matter how much it would cost because of its location. That might not occur until the rest of the area is at the max. point of developable area, but I can see it happening.